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A conservative and anemic view on balance, as previously stated, holds back striking vision design out of unfounded fears disappeared with playtesting never done.
I already described it above.Well let's hear it, then. What's your version of the 5E Warlord?
Funny.A conservative and anemic view on balance, as previously stated, holds back striking vision design out of unfounded fears disappeared with playtesting never done.
All the more reason to bring it back.They replaced the whole bardic music system from 3e with a handful of class features in 5e. Why would the warlord get more than that? Fundamentally, 5e always aims for a simplified action economy. All that White Raven Tactics stuff is just very un-5e-like.
Did they? The vast majority of relevant things bardic music once did is wrapped up in Bardic Inspiration now. And one of the very few things to make it from 4e pretty much unchanged (apart from truly necessary translation to 5e mechanics) was Vicious Mockery. I'm not seeing the connection.They replaced the whole bardic music system from 3e with a handful of class features in 5e.
I don't understand. Warlord didn't get more than that. It got less than that. Far, far less. Orders of magnitude less.Why would the warlord get more than that?
I strongly disagree, and if I weren't exhausted and sleep-deprived, I'd go through the various things that disprove it. Bardic Inspiration--and some subclass-specific tweaks to it--alongside Diviner Portents and other similar things show that 5e is perfectly comfortable injecting things between others' turns and modifying actions as they happen. If those things are in, it's totally possible to translate (not copy, actually translate) 4e Warlord mechanics to 5e.Fundamentally, 5e always aims for a simplified action economy. All that White Raven Tactics stuff is just very un-5e-like.
At page 35:Let's see how long this particular thread lasts. Could be more than six days; it was quite a while since everybody got the opportunity to declare their vision the only acceptable path forward
I mean, it doesn't help that a contingent of anti-fans is always eager to come out of the woodwork and tell people who like Warlords that they should sit down, shut up, and enjoy the table-scraps they're so graciously given because their preferences are wrong, invalid, unfit, not really a class, or some other variation of "it's not for me therefore it's not for anyone."At page 35:
Gonna last more than six days...
Actually, I would say it helps... if we're discussing why and how this thread is so alive and vibrantI mean, it doesn't help that a contingent of anti-fans is always eager to come out of the woodwork and tell people who like Warlords that they should sit down, shut up, and enjoy the table-scraps they're so graciously given because their preferences are wrong, invalid, unfit, not really a class, or some other variation of "it's not for me therefore it's not for anyone."
Not sure what distinction you're getting at here, but I guess it's material for a different thread...I'd argue it didn't crash, it BURNED OUT.