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I think it has an effect because most DMs are willing to accept the PHB races by default. People will exclude races from all kinds of other books but rarely do they exclude the core races. So I think you automatically see an uptick as a result.
If I’m being honest, I want them to go back over the last several DMGs, consider what they’ve already done multiple times and please, for the love of god, just do something different for once, and NOT turn half the book into an essay.
They’re referring to the creation of Greyhawk as a product, not the setting itself. It never occurred to Gygax that someone would want to actually buy a setting product; he figured everyone would create their own.
That is actually not a bad idea! I mean, 2nd edition was rewarding XP for monster killing, and optionally treasure and both of those are less in keeping with Ravenloft than being the person who walks into a dark basement saying “Who goes there?”
Fair enough, you get a direction sign for a lot of the locations pointing you towards where to go with it. My point is that if I’m a DM who doesn’t want to come up with a setting all by myself, but I just need a start, not fully detailed the way FR is, Greyhawk is a good starting place.
Explain it, please.
Forgotten Realms is the kitchen sink of D&D covering nearly every fantasy or mythological culture imaginable from Arthurian fantasy in Cormyr to Arabian Nights in Zakhara to Lankhmar-like urban fantasy in Baldur’s Gate.
Ravenloft is the setting of Hammer and Universal...
Oh, I can tell you why it still survives to this day - it was Gary Gygax’s. That mystique alone assured people would be enamored with it.
Do I think it’s worthless? I think it’s under-developed. It’s got a great map. It’s got a lot of places with silly names. It’s got a lot of very famous NPCs...
So you’re saying you have to drop a lore bomb or we have to read a book to explain the difference between FR and GH?
I’m pretty sure I can describe the differences between FR, Ravenloft, Spelljammer, Planescape and others fairly easily. Maybe there’s a reason there’s a struggle for Greyhawk?