What is the piety system?
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Weiley31
Legend
Basically: a Renown/Point system for followers of deities. The Subsystem was first introduced in 5E via the Mythic Odysseys of Theros setting book by WoTC. Basically, when you do things that a deity is for/against, you get/lose points towards their favor to you. When you reach a certain threshold, you gain something in response to your devotion to said deity.
dave2008
Legend
It was introduced in Theros. It is a system of supernatural gifts for devotion to your deity:
Benefits of Piety
The gods bestow favors on those who prove their devotion. When your piety score crosses certain thresholds—3, 10, 25, and 50—you gain a benefit detailed in the sections describing the gods’ champions throughout this chapter. If your piety score exceeds and then falls below one of those thresholds, you lose the benefit you gained at the higher tier.If you choose the Oracle supernatural gift, you gain different rewards for your piety score, instead of the ones normally granted by your god. This gift and its benefits are described in chapter 1.
Athreos’s Champions
Alignment: Usually lawful, often evilSuggested Classes: Cleric, monk, rogue, wizard
Suggested Cleric Domains: Death, Grave (described in Xanathar’s Guide to Everything)
Suggested Backgrounds: Hermit, sage, sailor, urchin
Most worshipers of Athreos believe death is a natural part of life, to be neither rushed toward nor run from. They seek to do their part in fulfilling the natural order, easing the passage of the living into death. Most also respect their ancestors and honor them through tradition, ritual, and memory.
Athreos’s Favor
As all mortals eventually bow before him, the River Guide doesn’t seek worship. When mortal agents are necessary, though, Athreos often seeks the descendants of those who impressed him during their journey to the Underworld. The Athreos’s Favor table offers several suggestions for the nature of your connection to the god.Athreos’s Favor
| d6 | Circumstance |
|---|---|
| 1 | A family member died bringing you into the world. |
| 2 | You don’t think or feel as others do, finding emotions messy and confusing. |
| 3 | In a brazen or desperate moment, you dared death to take you—and in a way, it has. |
| 4 | You sent a Returned back to the Underworld, restoring a measure of order to the cosmos. |
| 5 | Serving Athreos is your family tradition, a responsibility honored for countless generations. |
| 6 | You have died before, and in that moment, you glimpsed the mists that surround Athreos’s skiff. |
Devotion to Athreos
Servants of Athreos facilitate the passage from life into death. As a follower of Athreos, consider the possibilities on the Athreos’s Ideals table as alternatives to those suggested for your background.Athreos’s Ideals
| d6 | Ideal |
|---|---|
| 1 | Devotion. My devotion to my god is more important to me than what he stands for. (Any) |
| 2 | Tradition. Honor the dead through rites of respect and by continuing their ways. (Lawful) |
| 3 | Dread. Mortals put their fear out of mind, but through me, they will remember the inevitable. (Evil or neutral) |
| 4 | Apathy. Life is but a rehearsal for death, and it’s best not to grow too attached to it. (Neutral) |
| 5 | Succor. I offer balm to the dying—which, to varying degrees, includes all of us. (Good or neutral) |
| 6 | Judgment. Violations against the order of life and death must be set right. (Lawful) |
Earning and Losing Piety
You increase your piety score to Athreos when you honor him or the cycle of life and death through acts such as these:- Providing coins and overseeing burial rites for those slain during a tragedy
- Ensuring that the deeds and knowledge of someone who has died are preserved
- Slaying a Returned and its associated eidolon
Your piety score to Athreos decreases if you diminish the River Guide’s influence in the world, impede his work, or disrespect the dead through acts such as these:
- Denying a dying person their final rites
- Removing wealth from a corpse or defiling a tomb
- Aiding those who seek to escape from the Underworld, or who already have
Athreos’s Devotee
Piety 3+ Athreos traitYour life is intertwined with the fate of the dead. You can cast gentle repose with this trait, requiring no material components, a number of times equal to your Wisdom modifier (minimum of once). You regain all expended uses when you finish a long rest. Wisdom is your spellcasting ability for this spell.
Athreos’s Votary
Piety 10+ Athreos traitYou can cast speak with dead with this trait, requiring no material components. Once you cast the spell in this way, you can’t do so again until you finish a long rest. Wisdom is your spellcasting ability for this spell.
Athreos’s Disciple
Piety 25+ Athreos traitYou can cast false life with this trait, requiring no material components. When you do so, you gain an additional 25 temporary hit points. Once you cast the spell in this way, you can’t do so again until you finish a long rest. Wisdom is your spellcasting ability for this spell.
Champion of the Passage
Piety 50+ Athreos traitYou can increase your Intelligence or Wisdom score by 2 and also increase your maximum for that score by 2.
DarkCrisis
Reeks of Jedi
The Piety things seems like all benefit. It's "free" extra powers for the Cleric. Or is it any class can do it
Weiley31
Legend
Anybody can use the Piety system. It's just that for flavor, if your a Warlock/Paladin/Cleric, it adds on to the theme.
If you wanted to replicate the whole "oh man you suck in the eyes of your Deity? Say bye to your Paladin/Cleric powers" thing from older editions, in 5E, then you can pretty much do that with the Piety system if everybody agrees to it.
Thanks. I assume you're Dave P..... No idea why. Appreciate you letting us know.
dave2008
Legend
The Tas' Pouch of Everything authors said that if they edit the description it kicks them out of the Dragonlance filter for some reason. They notified DMsGuild (who has to manually put it back in evidently) and they are at least aware of this issue. You might want to reach out to DMsGuild to get it corrected.
PS - I only noticed this issue because I did a Dragonlance, 5e search to see what is available and noticed a lot of things I had already seen were not showing up
good to know, thanks. I can't even log into DMG right now.....but when it lets me back in, I'll reach out.
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