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<blockquote data-quote="Demetrios1453" data-source="post: 8327284" data-attributes="member: 6801060"><p>The paraelemental planes are basically there, as the border regions of the inner planes as described in the DMG. They have slightly different names, but are still basically recognizable as the paraelemental planes of old. The poor quasielemental planes seem to have long ago bit the dust however, unless a 5e Planescape would want to resurrect them.</p><p></p><p>The Positive and Negative Planes are mentioned in the PHB Appendix C, both in a sidebar and on the maps of the planes. Granted, even in prime Planescape days, they received little coverage and they were basically death traps to any who visited there (and would presumably remain so to this day).</p><p></p><p>As for how a potential 5e Planescape book would look, we really don't need to look much beyond the Eberrron campaign book.</p><p></p><p>Eberron Chapter 1: Character Creation.</p><p>Races - substitute Eberron races with missing Planescape races (bariaur, rogue modron, etc)</p><p>Dragonmarks and Group Patrons - substitute the Factions (and any other significant patrons wanted, if any). With 63 pages, this would give us 3 - 4 pages for each faction, with pages to spare. Given that Eberron did a fine job for the Dragonmarked Houses with 1 or 2 pages per House, we could probably get away with averaging 3 pages for each of the 15 factions for 45 pages, freeing up ~20 pages for the descriptions of the planes.</p><p>Artificer Class - hey, 10 pages of freed up page space for something else! We'll move those to the description of the planes as well!</p><p></p><p>Eberron Chapter 2: Khorvaire Gazetteer.</p><p>Nations of Khorvaire - Hey, 17 nations, 17 Outer Planes! Only about 2 pages per nation though, so we'll grab those pages saved from the previous chapter to give us about 4 pages for each of the Outer Planes, maybe more if we can grab some from other chapters. For comparison, the most in-depth coverage in the DMG is the Nine Hells with just over 2 pages, with most planes getting a paragraph or two, so no matter what, we're definitely building significantly there.</p><p>Distant Lands - The other planes. Most of these planes are fairly well described in the DMG, and aren't the main attractions for Planescape, so we may not need too much additional here.</p><p>Faiths of Khorvaire - another 10 pages we can donate to the planar description area.</p><p></p><p>Eberron Chapter 3: Sharn. 30 pages, which seems about right for Sigil, although we might be able to squeeze a few pages for the planar chapter. Easy 1 to 1 here.</p><p></p><p>Eberron Chatpers 4, 5, and 6 (Building Eberron Adventures (with mini-adventure), Treasures, and Friends and Foes) should also translate pretty well 1 to 1 to Building Planescape Adventures, Treasures, and Bestiary. We might be able to squeeze some pages out to feed back to the planar description section, although all of these would likely merit their Eberron page count ("Treasures" might even merit more); the Bestiary especially as we still don't have 5e updates for many Planescape creatures, celestials especially...</p><p></p><p>(The big thing is how many pages we can get to describe the planes. The 3e Manual of the Planes had 107 pages for the Inner, Outer, and Transitive Planes, and its coverage was reasonably thorough (it did have a much larger typeface than Eberron, so we would gain there!). If we do a straight transfer of Eberron, we've got 46 pages from Chapter 2, plus whatever can be spared from other chapters - I was able to pull 30 with little issue from Chapter 1, so if we get some small contributions from other chapters we can get close to that goal. Of course, again, we may not need to worry about the Inner Planes as much as they are fairly well covered in the DMG. Maybe go light on the descriptions and just have some new adventure hooks/sites for them?)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Demetrios1453, post: 8327284, member: 6801060"] The paraelemental planes are basically there, as the border regions of the inner planes as described in the DMG. They have slightly different names, but are still basically recognizable as the paraelemental planes of old. The poor quasielemental planes seem to have long ago bit the dust however, unless a 5e Planescape would want to resurrect them. The Positive and Negative Planes are mentioned in the PHB Appendix C, both in a sidebar and on the maps of the planes. Granted, even in prime Planescape days, they received little coverage and they were basically death traps to any who visited there (and would presumably remain so to this day). As for how a potential 5e Planescape book would look, we really don't need to look much beyond the Eberrron campaign book. Eberron Chapter 1: Character Creation. Races - substitute Eberron races with missing Planescape races (bariaur, rogue modron, etc) Dragonmarks and Group Patrons - substitute the Factions (and any other significant patrons wanted, if any). With 63 pages, this would give us 3 - 4 pages for each faction, with pages to spare. Given that Eberron did a fine job for the Dragonmarked Houses with 1 or 2 pages per House, we could probably get away with averaging 3 pages for each of the 15 factions for 45 pages, freeing up ~20 pages for the descriptions of the planes. Artificer Class - hey, 10 pages of freed up page space for something else! We'll move those to the description of the planes as well! Eberron Chapter 2: Khorvaire Gazetteer. Nations of Khorvaire - Hey, 17 nations, 17 Outer Planes! Only about 2 pages per nation though, so we'll grab those pages saved from the previous chapter to give us about 4 pages for each of the Outer Planes, maybe more if we can grab some from other chapters. For comparison, the most in-depth coverage in the DMG is the Nine Hells with just over 2 pages, with most planes getting a paragraph or two, so no matter what, we're definitely building significantly there. Distant Lands - The other planes. Most of these planes are fairly well described in the DMG, and aren't the main attractions for Planescape, so we may not need too much additional here. Faiths of Khorvaire - another 10 pages we can donate to the planar description area. Eberron Chapter 3: Sharn. 30 pages, which seems about right for Sigil, although we might be able to squeeze a few pages for the planar chapter. Easy 1 to 1 here. Eberron Chatpers 4, 5, and 6 (Building Eberron Adventures (with mini-adventure), Treasures, and Friends and Foes) should also translate pretty well 1 to 1 to Building Planescape Adventures, Treasures, and Bestiary. We might be able to squeeze some pages out to feed back to the planar description section, although all of these would likely merit their Eberron page count ("Treasures" might even merit more); the Bestiary especially as we still don't have 5e updates for many Planescape creatures, celestials especially... (The big thing is how many pages we can get to describe the planes. The 3e Manual of the Planes had 107 pages for the Inner, Outer, and Transitive Planes, and its coverage was reasonably thorough (it did have a much larger typeface than Eberron, so we would gain there!). If we do a straight transfer of Eberron, we've got 46 pages from Chapter 2, plus whatever can be spared from other chapters - I was able to pull 30 with little issue from Chapter 1, so if we get some small contributions from other chapters we can get close to that goal. Of course, again, we may not need to worry about the Inner Planes as much as they are fairly well covered in the DMG. Maybe go light on the descriptions and just have some new adventure hooks/sites for them?) [/QUOTE]
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