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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9335836" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>And we GAVE you an explanation, 20 pages ago. And you said you were done. </p><p></p><p>And now here we are, with you demanding explanations again, like it is somehow the absolute most important part of this entire discussion. And it is ridiculous, because you are demanding explanations for things that you don't even understand what they are. </p><p></p><p>For example. One of the things I would like to see, is a fighter able to burst through a stone wall. You know what can already do that? TRolls and Ogres. These monsters are seen as immensely strong, able to rip men in half and uproot trees. They have the staggering strength of... 18 to 19. A mid-level human fighter is ALREADY stronger than an ogre and a troll. </p><p></p><p>Do I need an explanation for how a 10th level fighter can have a strength of 20? Do I need a magical explanation for why the existing facts of the game... exist? If I want fighters to break stone and bend steel with their barehands, I need to explain why they are as strong as... monsters with LOWER strength scores? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And the games are trying to emulate myths and stories. OR did you think Chimeras, Sphinxes, Rocs, Trolls, Ogres, Goblins, Orcs, Medusa, Hydra, Dragons, Giants, zombies, ghouls, vampires, dryads, nymphs, mermaids, ect ect ect were all real creatures that we really studied to make the game happen?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9335836, member: 6801228"] And we GAVE you an explanation, 20 pages ago. And you said you were done. And now here we are, with you demanding explanations again, like it is somehow the absolute most important part of this entire discussion. And it is ridiculous, because you are demanding explanations for things that you don't even understand what they are. For example. One of the things I would like to see, is a fighter able to burst through a stone wall. You know what can already do that? TRolls and Ogres. These monsters are seen as immensely strong, able to rip men in half and uproot trees. They have the staggering strength of... 18 to 19. A mid-level human fighter is ALREADY stronger than an ogre and a troll. Do I need an explanation for how a 10th level fighter can have a strength of 20? Do I need a magical explanation for why the existing facts of the game... exist? If I want fighters to break stone and bend steel with their barehands, I need to explain why they are as strong as... monsters with LOWER strength scores? And the games are trying to emulate myths and stories. OR did you think Chimeras, Sphinxes, Rocs, Trolls, Ogres, Goblins, Orcs, Medusa, Hydra, Dragons, Giants, zombies, ghouls, vampires, dryads, nymphs, mermaids, ect ect ect were all real creatures that we really studied to make the game happen? [/QUOTE]
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