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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 9329367" data-attributes="member: 58172"><p>The term "supernatural" is unhelpful in a context where magic is ubiquitous.</p><p></p><p>The term "supernatural" is a scientific concept. Science establishes the "laws" by which the universe functions. Supernatural is something beyond the universe that can interfere with and override the laws of the universe.</p><p></p><p>The only time the term supernatural might make sense in D&D is if it specifically refers to the Astral Plane with its Celestials, Fiends, Clerics and Paladins, who are "beyond" the Material Plane.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I hope my comment helps sort the terms.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Height correlates with DNA, but culture and events can significantly alter someones height.</p><p></p><p>Normal reallife humans include heights that roughly correspond to D&D Large (over 8 foot) and Small (under 4 foot).</p><p></p><p>So, Large and Small sizes are "ordinary".</p><p></p><p>However, for a human or humanshape to be Huge and Tiny seems extraordinary to me.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, sports and weighttraining and so on, very much are learned skills.</p><p></p><p>A person might have an innate talent for certain skills, but learning and experience still matter.</p><p></p><p>So, ordinary.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ki is natural. Every human, every animal, indeed everything, and the cosmos, exhibits ki.</p><p></p><p>It is possible to talk about ordinary uses of ki, versus extraordinary uses of ki.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If the world itself is magical, then magic is natural.</p><p></p><p>If the world itself is void of magic, but magic from beyond the world can override it, then this otherworldly source of magic would be supernatural.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Mutant superheroes are natural, magic, and extraordinary.</p><p></p><p>If Hawkeye is an olympic level athlete and sharphooter, who uses hi-tech, then he would be natural and extraordinary.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 9329367, member: 58172"] The term "supernatural" is unhelpful in a context where magic is ubiquitous. The term "supernatural" is a scientific concept. Science establishes the "laws" by which the universe functions. Supernatural is something beyond the universe that can interfere with and override the laws of the universe. The only time the term supernatural might make sense in D&D is if it specifically refers to the Astral Plane with its Celestials, Fiends, Clerics and Paladins, who are "beyond" the Material Plane. I hope my comment helps sort the terms. Height correlates with DNA, but culture and events can significantly alter someones height. Normal reallife humans include heights that roughly correspond to D&D Large (over 8 foot) and Small (under 4 foot). So, Large and Small sizes are "ordinary". However, for a human or humanshape to be Huge and Tiny seems extraordinary to me. Actually, sports and weighttraining and so on, very much are learned skills. A person might have an innate talent for certain skills, but learning and experience still matter. So, ordinary. Ki is natural. Every human, every animal, indeed everything, and the cosmos, exhibits ki. It is possible to talk about ordinary uses of ki, versus extraordinary uses of ki. If the world itself is magical, then magic is natural. If the world itself is void of magic, but magic from beyond the world can override it, then this otherworldly source of magic would be supernatural. Mutant superheroes are natural, magic, and extraordinary. If Hawkeye is an olympic level athlete and sharphooter, who uses hi-tech, then he would be natural and extraordinary. [/QUOTE]
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