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<blockquote data-quote="zenopus" data-source="post: 8522162" data-attributes="member: 42368"><p>As pointed out in the Piazza thread by James Mishler, "The descriptions of the "Boots of Banana Peel," "Hawk Helm," and the "Ring of Ruthlessness" are almost word for word from" the Arduin Grimoire (1977) by Dave Hargrave.</p><p></p><p>I also noted that the Withra is a monster by Don Turnbull originally written up for White Dwarf #7 (June/July 1978). The stats are almost the same here, and while the text is not identical, it's pretty clearly derived from that earlier source; e.g., each is described as an "incompetent wraith".</p><p></p><p>I also noted that a few of the monsters that appear in a different font (Tar Golem, Daughters of Kali) were apparently photocopied from All the Worlds Monsters (1977).</p><p></p><p>As I wrote there, we need need to be careful casually attributing particular items/spells/monsters in this to Schick or Moldvay or Wilkerson because they may be incorporated from earlier sources without attribution, because they were just intending to use it for their home campaign; i.e., this material was never intended for publication.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zenopus, post: 8522162, member: 42368"] As pointed out in the Piazza thread by James Mishler, "The descriptions of the "Boots of Banana Peel," "Hawk Helm," and the "Ring of Ruthlessness" are almost word for word from" the Arduin Grimoire (1977) by Dave Hargrave. I also noted that the Withra is a monster by Don Turnbull originally written up for White Dwarf #7 (June/July 1978). The stats are almost the same here, and while the text is not identical, it's pretty clearly derived from that earlier source; e.g., each is described as an "incompetent wraith". I also noted that a few of the monsters that appear in a different font (Tar Golem, Daughters of Kali) were apparently photocopied from All the Worlds Monsters (1977). As I wrote there, we need need to be careful casually attributing particular items/spells/monsters in this to Schick or Moldvay or Wilkerson because they may be incorporated from earlier sources without attribution, because they were just intending to use it for their home campaign; i.e., this material was never intended for publication. [/QUOTE]
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