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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 9039109" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>No, it doesn't. It literally can't. Logically impossible, and what they show us is not consistent with that assertion. In the Loki series, they <em>specifically and explicitly show us</em> agents watching to see if a deviation becomes <em>big enough</em> to create a branch from the Sacred Timeline before they send people out to prune. Most actions/variations are thus not impactful enough on the timeline to create a branch. The MCU does not typically split over whether you have an Americano or a Mochaccino coffee drink.</p><p></p><p>It is also logically impossible because TVA Agents must make choices and interact with the timeline in the process of their work. Each time they sent out TVA agents to prune a timeline, <em>the agents themselves</em> would generate many branching points that would themselves need to be pruned. And when they sent agents to prune those, they'd generate more. The agents thus would recursively create more quantum branches than the agency can handle.</p><p></p><p>Aside: the Many Worlds interpretation is actually that <em>every physically possible outcome</em> is realized. Most folks do not realize that that means. It isn't just some number of <em>important</em> choices are represented. <em>EVERY THING</em> that is physically possible is represented.</p><p></p><p>Put your hand on a desk/table surface. Move your hand one millimeter to the side - that's another possibility. A second millimeter, a second possibility. Look at how many <em>other</em> places on the table you could have easily reached. Or if you stretched? How many places on the table can you put your hand on if you moved one step to the side? Two steps? How many places can you reach if you walked to the other side of the table? How many places on the wall could you place your hand? All those are possible. It is also possible you went out to get that mochaccino instead of putting your hand on the desk. It is also possible you just upped and moved to Albuquerque. A real Many Worlds situation is not <em>manageable</em> by an organization. </p><p></p><p>So, back to the main point - for the Thanos issue, we might consider that as far as multiple universes are concerned, all the different millions of ways the Avengers fail are really only one - Thanos wins. The minute differences in the millions of ways the Avengers don't win all end up the same to the Sacred Timeline.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 9039109, member: 177"] No, it doesn't. It literally can't. Logically impossible, and what they show us is not consistent with that assertion. In the Loki series, they [I]specifically and explicitly show us[/I] agents watching to see if a deviation becomes [I]big enough[/I] to create a branch from the Sacred Timeline before they send people out to prune. Most actions/variations are thus not impactful enough on the timeline to create a branch. The MCU does not typically split over whether you have an Americano or a Mochaccino coffee drink. It is also logically impossible because TVA Agents must make choices and interact with the timeline in the process of their work. Each time they sent out TVA agents to prune a timeline, [I]the agents themselves[/I] would generate many branching points that would themselves need to be pruned. And when they sent agents to prune those, they'd generate more. The agents thus would recursively create more quantum branches than the agency can handle. Aside: the Many Worlds interpretation is actually that [I]every physically possible outcome[/I] is realized. Most folks do not realize that that means. It isn't just some number of [I]important[/I] choices are represented. [I]EVERY THING[/I] that is physically possible is represented. Put your hand on a desk/table surface. Move your hand one millimeter to the side - that's another possibility. A second millimeter, a second possibility. Look at how many [I]other[/I] places on the table you could have easily reached. Or if you stretched? How many places on the table can you put your hand on if you moved one step to the side? Two steps? How many places can you reach if you walked to the other side of the table? How many places on the wall could you place your hand? All those are possible. It is also possible you went out to get that mochaccino instead of putting your hand on the desk. It is also possible you just upped and moved to Albuquerque. A real Many Worlds situation is not [I]manageable[/I] by an organization. So, back to the main point - for the Thanos issue, we might consider that as far as multiple universes are concerned, all the different millions of ways the Avengers fail are really only one - Thanos wins. The minute differences in the millions of ways the Avengers don't win all end up the same to the Sacred Timeline. [/QUOTE]
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