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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 8974982" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p>Its always a matter of degrees, and even the slimmest nod to verisimilitude.</p><p></p><p>For example, in the stair scene, you see John look noticeably tired at several points, and he slows down climbing the stairs as a result. So our hero is "fatigued". Now is that level of fatigue = to what he has gone through, hell no, not even close, no mortal man could do it....but we at least give it the nod (yeah Wick is tired, but he's awesome, so after a quick couple of minutes rest, he's good).</p><p></p><p>And most of the durability scenes are the same. I mean when Wick gets slammed hard, there is at least a stunned moment (oh that was a big hit, knock the wind of Wick....but he's awesome, so only like a minute).</p><p></p><p>The fall scenes just take that oooooone step too far, and part of it is always the sound play. If you go rewatch JW 3, the fall at the end is hard, but we at least give it a nod to realism (that awning softened his fall, the fire scape slowed down his fall).... but even then the assumption is "that fall just killed him". If nothing else he doesn't get back up right away. Now again, if that was a real fall, JW would be toast, or at least maimed. But he's awesome, so he's fine.</p><p></p><p>In JW4 the fall scene is straight down and HARD, the sound is brutal, it sounds like he slams straight into concrete (which considering the scene, he probably does). And JW just gets right back up (though at least he does take a staggered moment before he does to acknowledge the inconvenience).</p><p></p><p>so you could argue by JW4 we are at full 80's action hero, JW is practically indestructible at this point. Honestly I don't have a problem with that per say, only that he isn't the hero we got in the first movie (who was still ridiculously durable but with a least a nod to realism), so its a tonal change that some might not care for.</p><p></p><p></p><p>At the end of the day, it is more a nitpick. No one goes to see John Wick take a fall and not get back up, we are in action movie territory, and so how much realism you really need is in the eye of the beholder.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 8974982, member: 5889"] Its always a matter of degrees, and even the slimmest nod to verisimilitude. For example, in the stair scene, you see John look noticeably tired at several points, and he slows down climbing the stairs as a result. So our hero is "fatigued". Now is that level of fatigue = to what he has gone through, hell no, not even close, no mortal man could do it....but we at least give it the nod (yeah Wick is tired, but he's awesome, so after a quick couple of minutes rest, he's good). And most of the durability scenes are the same. I mean when Wick gets slammed hard, there is at least a stunned moment (oh that was a big hit, knock the wind of Wick....but he's awesome, so only like a minute). The fall scenes just take that oooooone step too far, and part of it is always the sound play. If you go rewatch JW 3, the fall at the end is hard, but we at least give it a nod to realism (that awning softened his fall, the fire scape slowed down his fall).... but even then the assumption is "that fall just killed him". If nothing else he doesn't get back up right away. Now again, if that was a real fall, JW would be toast, or at least maimed. But he's awesome, so he's fine. In JW4 the fall scene is straight down and HARD, the sound is brutal, it sounds like he slams straight into concrete (which considering the scene, he probably does). And JW just gets right back up (though at least he does take a staggered moment before he does to acknowledge the inconvenience). so you could argue by JW4 we are at full 80's action hero, JW is practically indestructible at this point. Honestly I don't have a problem with that per say, only that he isn't the hero we got in the first movie (who was still ridiculously durable but with a least a nod to realism), so its a tonal change that some might not care for. At the end of the day, it is more a nitpick. No one goes to see John Wick take a fall and not get back up, we are in action movie territory, and so how much realism you really need is in the eye of the beholder. [/QUOTE]
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