Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
The
VOIDRUNNER'S CODEX
is coming! Explore new worlds, fight oppressive empires, fend off fearsome aliens, and wield deadly psionics with this comprehensive boxed set expansion for 5E and A5E!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Dragonlancing TV show being worked on by WotC confirmed
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="bguy" data-source="post: 8999167" data-attributes="member: 98170"><p>That's rather unfair to Laurana. Yes, she initially joined the group to win back a man who had dismissed her, but once she joined the group she proved willing to stand up for herself against Tanis (witness her insisting on continuing her work with the refugees even when Tanis threw a jealous fit about it and her escaping on her own in Neraka which involved her literally dumping Tanis), and there were also multiple instances of her setting aside her feelings for Tanis when necessary for her duty. These included:</p><p></p><p>-her overcoming her grief in Tarsis when she thought Tanis had been killed to go and help Tas;</p><p>-her shaking off Feal-Thas's magical attack and telling him she would kill him even if it meant her losing Tanis forever;</p><p>-her passing on a chance to go with Sturm to Sancrist (when Sturm even suggested that Tanis might be there) in order to stay with the rest of the group because she felt they were in danger from Silvara;</p><p>-her agreeing to go to the High Clerist's Tower rather than head out to find Tanis; and</p><p>-her not falling to pieces after first Kitiara and then Gilthanas told her that Tanis was with Kitiara but instead committing herself to the war.</p><p></p><p>Thus the vast majority of the time Laurana set aside her feelings for Tanis to do what needed to be done. The only two exceptions are an act right at the beginning of her story (before any of her character growth took place), and an act that occurred under very special circumstances (when she genuinely and not unreasonably believed Tanis was dying and that she could safely go to him to comfort him in his last hours.) Showing compassion and forgiveness for a dying loved one is hardly chucking aside your pride and dignity. It just shows what a big heart Laurana had.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And that's even more unfair. Laurana wasn't being weak or stupid in that moment. Wanting to be with the person you love when you think they are dying and asking for you is a perfectly natural and understandable desire, and Laurana had objectively good reason at that point in the story to believe that Kitiara was an honorable enemy that didn't want to harm her based on their prior encounter at the High Clerist's Tower where Kitiara already had the perfect opportunity to kill or capture her (when Laurana confronted Kitiara and Skie on the tower wall, and Laurana was alone, unarmed, and so exhausted from having just used the Dragon Orb that she could barely even stand) and didn't take advantage of it. It's perfectly logical for Laurana to think that if Kitiara wanted to harm her then she would have already done so at the High Clerist's Tower and that since Kitiara didn't take advantage of that perfect opportunity then Kitiara must genuinely not want to harm her (probably out of respect for Tanis's feelings) and thus the message must be true.</p><p></p><p>Nor was Laurana just a damsel in need of rescue in the third book since she ended up escaping on her own without Tanis's help. (An escape that saw her not just defeat Kitiara in a one on one fight but also set the Dragonarmies to destroying themselves and thus essentially won the entire War of the Lance.)</p><p></p><p>As for her taking Tanis back at the end, he infiltrated the very heart of evil on Krynn and faced down both a goddess and a death knight for her, and then proved that he would rather die protecting her than have the entire world with Kitiara. Under those circumstances I think it's understandable she was willing to give him another chance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bguy, post: 8999167, member: 98170"] That's rather unfair to Laurana. Yes, she initially joined the group to win back a man who had dismissed her, but once she joined the group she proved willing to stand up for herself against Tanis (witness her insisting on continuing her work with the refugees even when Tanis threw a jealous fit about it and her escaping on her own in Neraka which involved her literally dumping Tanis), and there were also multiple instances of her setting aside her feelings for Tanis when necessary for her duty. These included: -her overcoming her grief in Tarsis when she thought Tanis had been killed to go and help Tas; -her shaking off Feal-Thas's magical attack and telling him she would kill him even if it meant her losing Tanis forever; -her passing on a chance to go with Sturm to Sancrist (when Sturm even suggested that Tanis might be there) in order to stay with the rest of the group because she felt they were in danger from Silvara; -her agreeing to go to the High Clerist's Tower rather than head out to find Tanis; and -her not falling to pieces after first Kitiara and then Gilthanas told her that Tanis was with Kitiara but instead committing herself to the war. Thus the vast majority of the time Laurana set aside her feelings for Tanis to do what needed to be done. The only two exceptions are an act right at the beginning of her story (before any of her character growth took place), and an act that occurred under very special circumstances (when she genuinely and not unreasonably believed Tanis was dying and that she could safely go to him to comfort him in his last hours.) Showing compassion and forgiveness for a dying loved one is hardly chucking aside your pride and dignity. It just shows what a big heart Laurana had. And that's even more unfair. Laurana wasn't being weak or stupid in that moment. Wanting to be with the person you love when you think they are dying and asking for you is a perfectly natural and understandable desire, and Laurana had objectively good reason at that point in the story to believe that Kitiara was an honorable enemy that didn't want to harm her based on their prior encounter at the High Clerist's Tower where Kitiara already had the perfect opportunity to kill or capture her (when Laurana confronted Kitiara and Skie on the tower wall, and Laurana was alone, unarmed, and so exhausted from having just used the Dragon Orb that she could barely even stand) and didn't take advantage of it. It's perfectly logical for Laurana to think that if Kitiara wanted to harm her then she would have already done so at the High Clerist's Tower and that since Kitiara didn't take advantage of that perfect opportunity then Kitiara must genuinely not want to harm her (probably out of respect for Tanis's feelings) and thus the message must be true. Nor was Laurana just a damsel in need of rescue in the third book since she ended up escaping on her own without Tanis's help. (An escape that saw her not just defeat Kitiara in a one on one fight but also set the Dragonarmies to destroying themselves and thus essentially won the entire War of the Lance.) As for her taking Tanis back at the end, he infiltrated the very heart of evil on Krynn and faced down both a goddess and a death knight for her, and then proved that he would rather die protecting her than have the entire world with Kitiara. Under those circumstances I think it's understandable she was willing to give him another chance. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Dragonlancing TV show being worked on by WotC confirmed
Top