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<blockquote data-quote="Nathaniel Lee" data-source="post: 9338517" data-attributes="member: 6948827"><p>The issue — at least for me personally — isn't that they're reinterpreting or deriving a new piece of art (the miniature) from the original (the painting); it's that they're making all this hoopla about how it's the 50th anniversary, that they're celebrating the OG characters / creatures of the game by utilizing those historical pieces of artwork, and that they're hyping this set up as faithful 3D representations of those original pieces of artwork almost entirely across the board, with the "modern" versions of those NPCs / monsters being the "reinterpretations" or "derivative" works, except in the case of this miniature... and then really honing in on "we made this one female" despite it indisputably having been intended by not just Elmore but Gygax as well to be male.</p><p></p><p>I don't think there's anything wrong with retconning a male character to be female, a white character to be black, a straight character to be gay, etc. but it <em>does</em> seem odd for them to be doing this in seeming contrast with everything else they're doing in this set and really emphasizing it.</p><p></p><p>Some of Elmore's reaction was definitely overreaction. As others have pointed out, the art's out there and people are free to interpret it any way they want regardless of original intent. I think his clarification / correction was good.</p><p></p><p>At the same time I don't think anyone here is can honestly claim that the significant number of people have historically thought that the character was anything but a Conan-like male warrior, given the context of that time and era of the gaming industry and how the artist across the board depicted males and females in his art (and let's be honest pretty much how all the famous artists for the game at the time did). People who didn't grow up with the game and those boxed sets, and maybe saw this iconic artwork more "recently", perhaps, but definitely not people in the 80's and 90's when that art was first produced and was an iconic cover known by everyone in the space.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nathaniel Lee, post: 9338517, member: 6948827"] The issue — at least for me personally — isn't that they're reinterpreting or deriving a new piece of art (the miniature) from the original (the painting); it's that they're making all this hoopla about how it's the 50th anniversary, that they're celebrating the OG characters / creatures of the game by utilizing those historical pieces of artwork, and that they're hyping this set up as faithful 3D representations of those original pieces of artwork almost entirely across the board, with the "modern" versions of those NPCs / monsters being the "reinterpretations" or "derivative" works, except in the case of this miniature... and then really honing in on "we made this one female" despite it indisputably having been intended by not just Elmore but Gygax as well to be male. I don't think there's anything wrong with retconning a male character to be female, a white character to be black, a straight character to be gay, etc. but it [I]does[/I] seem odd for them to be doing this in seeming contrast with everything else they're doing in this set and really emphasizing it. Some of Elmore's reaction was definitely overreaction. As others have pointed out, the art's out there and people are free to interpret it any way they want regardless of original intent. I think his clarification / correction was good. At the same time I don't think anyone here is can honestly claim that the significant number of people have historically thought that the character was anything but a Conan-like male warrior, given the context of that time and era of the gaming industry and how the artist across the board depicted males and females in his art (and let's be honest pretty much how all the famous artists for the game at the time did). People who didn't grow up with the game and those boxed sets, and maybe saw this iconic artwork more "recently", perhaps, but definitely not people in the 80's and 90's when that art was first produced and was an iconic cover known by everyone in the space. [/QUOTE]
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