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<blockquote data-quote="Tablite" data-source="post: 9339953" data-attributes="member: 7041959"><p>I think the answer you're looking for is in the Equipment section for Spellcasting Foci (327). It says "<em>Using a spellcasting focus allows a spellcaster to forgo many material components for their spells</em>" and to see Chapter 10. The Components section of Ch 10 (494-5) says that non-consumed, no-cost Material components can be substituted by a focus, and that the spellcaster hold the focus during the spellcasting (and can be the same hand making the Seen component as well).</p><p></p><p>So if your cleric casts Tearful Sonnet using their holy symbol see 153), they cannot cast another spell while concentrating on it, unless one of the following is true for the second spell:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The spell uses a different spellcasting focus (such as an arcane orb from a sorcerer multclass) they can manipulate</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The spell does not have a material component (eg Arcane Muscles, Guidance)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The feature that grants the spell says it doesn't need them (ie Tiefling's Infernal Legacy, pg 46)</li> </ul><p>My main question in return is, why is your cleric getting this, and why is the player upset? It's not on the Cleric spell list or an archetype spell list. And Clerics are prepared casters, so they're not forced to choose it (unless it's a archetype spell, in which case it doesn't count against the number prepared anyway).</p><p></p><p></p><p>2 Things:</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Spells <strong>can</strong> be cast without the instrument means the bard doesn't <strong>have</strong> to use the instrument as their spellcasting focus. They can cast using traditional materials (say, if their instrument is stolen) and not be locked out of all their spellcasting. Pg 125 says bards can use and arcane focus or this feature to cast bard spells.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">I believe this is to limit the effect if the target is incapacitated or unconscious (and possibly blind/deaf)</li> </ol></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tablite, post: 9339953, member: 7041959"] I think the answer you're looking for is in the Equipment section for Spellcasting Foci (327). It says "[I]Using a spellcasting focus allows a spellcaster to forgo many material components for their spells[/I]" and to see Chapter 10. The Components section of Ch 10 (494-5) says that non-consumed, no-cost Material components can be substituted by a focus, and that the spellcaster hold the focus during the spellcasting (and can be the same hand making the Seen component as well). So if your cleric casts Tearful Sonnet using their holy symbol see 153), they cannot cast another spell while concentrating on it, unless one of the following is true for the second spell: [LIST] [*]The spell uses a different spellcasting focus (such as an arcane orb from a sorcerer multclass) they can manipulate [*]The spell does not have a material component (eg Arcane Muscles, Guidance) [*]The feature that grants the spell says it doesn't need them (ie Tiefling's Infernal Legacy, pg 46) [/LIST] My main question in return is, why is your cleric getting this, and why is the player upset? It's not on the Cleric spell list or an archetype spell list. And Clerics are prepared casters, so they're not forced to choose it (unless it's a archetype spell, in which case it doesn't count against the number prepared anyway). 2 Things: [LIST=1] [*]Spells [B]can[/B] be cast without the instrument means the bard doesn't [B]have[/B] to use the instrument as their spellcasting focus. They can cast using traditional materials (say, if their instrument is stolen) and not be locked out of all their spellcasting. Pg 125 says bards can use and arcane focus or this feature to cast bard spells. [*]I believe this is to limit the effect if the target is incapacitated or unconscious (and possibly blind/deaf) [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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