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<blockquote data-quote="Fanaelialae" data-source="post: 7639322" data-attributes="member: 53980"><p>I don't think it does, at least not by much. Complaints about such parties usually involved the 5MWD. As such, the extra spells weren't as much of a benefit as they might seem at first glance. If your silo is still half full at the end of the day, then you weren't functionally different from a caster with half the spells. The extra options, sure, but come to think of it 2e might have 3e beat on spells if you consider the Spell Compendiums. In the end it's a bit of a wash though, since enemies could also benefit from spells. Options can benefit the DM just as much as the players.</p><p></p><p>Buff-Scry-Teleport-Kill was a viable tactic (to varying degrees) in probably every edition except 4e. However, it wasn't considered a "problem" AFAIK until 3e. IMO, that was due to the rocket tag nature of high level combat in 3e. In earlier editions, you were generally less likely to die as your level increased. That wasn't necessarily true in 3e, resulting in the use of such approaches. The fact that it was also easier to do in 3e than in other editions was just the cherry on top. In other words, I believe that such smart play was a response to the deadliness of 3e, rather than demonstrating its ease.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fanaelialae, post: 7639322, member: 53980"] I don't think it does, at least not by much. Complaints about such parties usually involved the 5MWD. As such, the extra spells weren't as much of a benefit as they might seem at first glance. If your silo is still half full at the end of the day, then you weren't functionally different from a caster with half the spells. The extra options, sure, but come to think of it 2e might have 3e beat on spells if you consider the Spell Compendiums. In the end it's a bit of a wash though, since enemies could also benefit from spells. Options can benefit the DM just as much as the players. Buff-Scry-Teleport-Kill was a viable tactic (to varying degrees) in probably every edition except 4e. However, it wasn't considered a "problem" AFAIK until 3e. IMO, that was due to the rocket tag nature of high level combat in 3e. In earlier editions, you were generally less likely to die as your level increased. That wasn't necessarily true in 3e, resulting in the use of such approaches. The fact that it was also easier to do in 3e than in other editions was just the cherry on top. In other words, I believe that such smart play was a response to the deadliness of 3e, rather than demonstrating its ease. [/QUOTE]
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