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D&D General D&D Red Box: Who Is The Warrior?

A WizKids miniature reveals the iconic character's face for the first time.

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The Dungeons & Dragons Red Box, famously illustrated by Larry Elmore in 1983, featured cover art of a warrior fighting a red dragon. The piece is an iconic part of D&D's history.

WizKids is creating a 50th Anniversary D&D miniatures set for the D&D Icons of the Realms line which includes models based on classic art from the game, such as the AD&D Player's Handbook's famous 'A Paladin In Hell' piece by David Sutherland in 1978, along with various monsters and other iconic images. The set will be available in July 2024.

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Amongst the collection is Elmore's dragon-fighting warrior. This character has only ever been seen from behind, and has never been named or identified. However, WizKids’ miniature gives us our first look at them from the front. The warrior is a woman; the view from behind is identical to the original art, while the view from the front--the first time the character's face has ever been seen--is, as WizKids told ComicBook.com, "purposefully and clearly" a woman. This will be one of 10 secret rare miniatures included in the D&D Icons of the Realms: 50th Anniversary booster boxes.


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The original artist, Larry Elmore, says otherwise. (Update—the linked post has since been edited).

It's a man!

Gary didn't know what he wanted, all he wanted was something simple that would jump out at you. He wanted a male warrior. If it was a woman, you would know it for I'm pretty famous for painting women.

There was never a question in all these years about the male warrior.

No one thought it was a female warrior. "Whoever thought it was a female warrior is quite crazy and do not know what they are talking about."

This is stupid. I painted it, I should know.
- Larry Elmore​

Whether or not Elmore's intent was for the character to be a man, it seems that officially she's a woman. Either way, it's an awesome miniature. And for those who love the art, you can buy a print from Larry Elmore's official website.
 

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michaeljpastor

Adventurer
Metaphor is worse than literal. A literal coronary is survivable, but metaphorically, it represents death.
"Don't have a coronary" means calm down, it doesn't mean "Don't die."

All of which is completely irrelevant. I hope every bigoted sexist in the RPG world is furious right now. That was what I intended. You all can argue parts of speech all you want. It wasn't literal - pick your favorite vocabulary word.
 

EthanSental

Legend
Supporter
why not just buy a print directly from him and he will get more of the money and it bypasses WOTC.
Mainly cause I have 1 displate already and like the magnetic attachment over buying a print, framing and hanging it…and they were on sale last night when I looked at the site for it…win!
 


"Don't have a coronary" means calm down, it doesn't mean "Don't die."
That might be what you intended, but it’s not what I understood it to mean. It’s okay to say “that’s not what I meant, sorry if I caused offence”.

The thing about idiomatic language is it doesn’t travel well. Whilst everyone in one place might understand a meaning of a common expression, it may not have the same meaning elsewhere.
All of which is completely irrelevant. I hope every bigoted sexist in the RPG world is furious right now. That was what I intended. You all can argue parts of speech all you want. It wasn't literal - pick your favorite vocabulary word.
The thread title is misleading click bait. It’s not what a character “really looks like”, it’s one artist reinterpreting the work of another. Something that has always happened in the art world, and not worth commenting on.
 


michaeljpastor

Adventurer
That might be what you intended, but it’s not what I understood it to mean. It’s okay to say “that’s not what I meant, sorry if I caused offence”.
It's also okay not to jump to conclusions.
The thing about idiomatic language is it doesn’t travel well. Whilst everyone in one place might understand a meaning of a common expression, it may not have the same meaning elsewhere.
So we should eliminate all non-literal speech?
The thread title is misleading click bait. It’s not what a character “really looks like”, it’s one artist reinterpreting the work of another. Something that has always happened in the art world, and not worth commenting on.
Which has nothing to do with what I said.
 

So we should eliminate all non-literal speech?
You need to be very wary of it when trying to communicate with people from different parts of the world and who might have a different first language, and be quick to offer clarification when requested, rather than turn hostile and accuse them of “jumping to conclusions”. It’s okay to make a communication failure. It’s not okay to attack others for not using exactly the same regional dialect as you.
 

michaeljpastor

Adventurer
You need to be very wary of it when trying to communicate with people from different parts of the world and who might have a different first language, and be quick to offer clarification when requested, rather than turn hostile and accuse them of “jumping to conclusions”. It’s okay to make a communication failure. It’s not okay to attack others for not using exactly the same regional dialect as you.
Only one person asked for a clarification and identified themselves as a non-primary English speaker. The rest were attacks, and none asked for a clarification. The rest has been arguing about grammar.
 


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